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Second Presidential Debate Initial Fact Check

By Erik Zimerman On October 17, 2012 · Add Comment · In Against the Wind, Avvisi

Though I am fond of checking the “Fact Check” articles of the mainstream media, which themselves often are false if not outright lies, we will present a preliminary basic Fact Check on the major issues in the Second Presidential Debate of 2012. Many of the same points were covered which we covered in our First Fact Check series, and both candidates seemed to double down on their positions, Romney adding more detail on some issues, and Obama mostly repeating the same lies. The debate started off as strong for Romney, and quite week for Obama. Obama was nervous, had little control of the dialogue, and instead of coming out “swinging” as we were told, had to back off to a more aggressive Romney who expected this new more energetic Obama. Romney polished some of the points he had made in the first debate, and had a greater amount of detail in deriding some of Obama’s misleading or false statements (such as 5 million new jobs, and Oil Output is up etc). However, something happened midway into the debate where Obama seemed to take the edge. Though much will be made of his performance in the media, and improvement over the first debate, the truth is that he [...]

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Romney – Obama Debate, Fact Checking the “Fact Check”

By Erik Zimerman On October 8, 2012 · 1 Comment · In Against the Wind, Avvisi

The media has come out in a surprising and homogeneous cry that Romney won the first 2012 presidential debate in decisive fashion. I was less impressed with the contrast in performance, but I suppose I’ll take it. Undoubtedly Romney seemed more relaxed, assertive and better informed. He also made a bit more sense. So I would be in agreement that Romney squeezed out a small victory, mostly by the advantage of being slightly more correct, but my thinking was actually that his chance to completely dominate the debate and deliver knock-out blows was lost. In fact, Obama did quite a bit better than I expected and Romney did quite a bit worse than I hoped. So the question remaining is why the massively pro-Obama media came out out so massively disappointed by their man, and why they preached so uniformly that Romney delivered a decisive victory performance. The answer is composed of a few factors, more or less in order of importance: Expectations. Though to the informed crowd, it is well known that Obama is a poor debater, rather hopeless without a teleprompter, and not a particularly intelligent individual, the constant media worship he has received has led most people to forget this. Not least of these apparently, is the [...]

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